Music and Memory Care: How Your “Time of Life” Songs Support Cognitive and Emotional Health with Shannon Wallace, CDP, CDC

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Welcome to the Let's Talk Brain
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Color, and I'm so glad you're

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Wellness.
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important step towards living a
happier, healthier life.

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So let's dive in and welcome
today's guest.

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Music reaches the brain fast.
It crosses memory, movement,

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emotion, and connection in a
single moment.

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You feel it in your body.
You notice it in your mood.

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You see it and how people relate
to one another.

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Today's conversation focuses on
music as a whole brain and body

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workout.
We explore how rhythm, voice,

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and shared musical experience
support physical regulation,

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cognitive engagement, emotional
expression, and spiritual

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connection.
We also look at why music

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remains meaningful across the
lifespan, including during

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cognitive changes, and how it
supports dignity, identity, and

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human connection.
This episode center on music as

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a practical brain health. 1 you
already have access to. 1 you

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use everyday, whether you
realize it or not.

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I'm joined by a collaborative
partner and friend of the

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Virtual Brain Health Center,
Shannon Wallace, the creator of

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the first ever interactive in
person, live online and on

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demand musical memory care
workshop that serves active

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adults and those of all ages
living with all stages of

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dementia or cognitive impairment
along with their care partners.

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Today, the program has reached
participants live online and all

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of North America and 40
countries across the world.

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Program supporters include
Borough Neurological Institute,

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ARP, the Alzheimer's
Association, the Live Inside

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Foundation and our Virtual Brain
Health Center, where she offers

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this program for free once a
month.

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Wallace's career spans 30 years
in international music,

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television, marketing and public
policy advocacy.

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Shannon is a certified dementia
practitioner through the

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National Council of Certified
Dementia Practitioners and is a

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dementia care certified through
Dementia Care Education.

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She's an advocate for the humans
adventurous and creative spirit

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through interactive expression
and communication.

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Professional and international
vocal jazz musician.

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Shannon, I'm so glad today,
after all of the years we've

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been in touch with one another,
that now you get to join me on

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the podcast.
So welcome.

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Thank you so much.
To kick off the conversation and

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asking what drew you to explore
music and brain health as a

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memory care tool beyond your
experience as a vocalist and

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performer?
In 2015, I think it was, I'm a

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jazz vocalist, and so I hadn't
yet cut my debut jazz album, and

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it was going to be pretty pricey
to be able to do it.

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So I was looking for funding and
the Arizona Commission on the

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Arts was offering a grant for
$5000 for individual artists.

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And I fit the bill with all of
the parameters that they set.

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And as I was going through the
process for the Arizona

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Commission on the Arts for this
grant, one of the provocative

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questions was how does your
project benefit your community?

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And I thought, uh oh, I hope
that the people in Arizona are

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wanting to buy my albums or
download my album and they would

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pay for it and enjoy it for
their listening pleasure.

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Honestly, I thought, I need to
stop applying for this grant

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because I didn't have the
appropriate and honest answer.

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But what that did, it was very
provocative in that it literally

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asked me in my heart, what are
you doing, Shannon, with your

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community, with your music?
And I thought, I'm really doing

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nothing to benefit my community.
And it was the time in my life

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where that meant something to
me.

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This was really the pivotal
moment for me to grow up a

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little bit more and see that my
gifts and talents maybe could be

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of benefit to the community.
So I decided to work with

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seniors because seniors have
always been my jam, always ever

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since I was a kid and my grandma
was the piece to my carrots.

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So she's now deceased.
But at the time she was still

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very much with us, and I decided
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seniors now.
What did that mean?

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I thought at the time I'll sing
for seniors.

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A colleague of mine who was
playing piano for me at the time

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stumbled upon a memory care
community in the Scottsdale, AZ

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area and we met with the
executive director and told her

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that we wanted to offer some
music to her memory care

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residence and I didn't know
anything about memory care.

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I didn't even understand what
memory care was at the time.

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I ended up volunteering 3 * a
week for two years, volunteering

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to sing to them, and it started
off singing to them and then I

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brought in instruments for them
to play along while I still sang

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to them.
And there's nothing wrong with

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that.
That's music therapy one O 1 and

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it's a really important aspect
of bringing joy to the human

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soul.
But what I didn't know about

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memory care and dementia was a
lot.

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And what they did is taught me
about what dementia is and what

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it isn't, and the various stages
of dementia.

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There are 7 stages and learning
how to serve each stage

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according that three days a week
for two years volunteering set

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the foundation for what it is
where I am now.

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And I wouldn't have it any other
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I'm very grateful for, I call
them now my dementia darlings

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who taught me a whole heck of a
lot, and as a result I feel like

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I'm a better servant to them, as
well as even just active seniors

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or the developmentally disabled.
I serve them all.

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Thank you so much for sharing.
What brought you into that

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space.
I feel so many of us that find

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our way to the broader brain
health and memory care areas as

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a whole have some type of shift
that brings us into this area of

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work.
And he alluded to talking about

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music as this whole brain
experience.

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When we start to think about
music as a whole brain body

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workout, what does that mean in
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I've been involved in fitness
and fitness competitions and had

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various trainers helping me in
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I learned also a mind and muscle
connection, a mind and body

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connection.
So if you're at the gym and

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you're working out and maybe
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that day, it's back day or it's
leg day or whatever.

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If your mind is not on those
muscles, then the muscles and

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the body won't respond and
benefit nearly as much as if you

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put the intentionality behind
putting your mind into that

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muscle.
Music is the same thing with

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what it is Ioffer for the body
because the experience that

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Ioffer now, thanks to my
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this field called maybe dementia
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Brain health is that
intentionality, even in music,

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is imperative and paramount for
positive outcomes in attitude

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and emotion, in psychology and
in maybe even hand eye

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coordination, body responses,
with the music being a

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facilitator for that.
And what do you think sets music

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apart from other cognitive and
creative activities?

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What makes music unique for how
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My belief is that music is the
elixir of the soul.

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It's the common thread that runs
through all of us beyond our

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humanity.
Music has a great impact on the

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soul.
Certainly there's a therapeutic

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value to music, but also depends
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For example, if I am working
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been a painter all of her life.
Music is going to be impactful,

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but she may not therapeutically
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she might if I were a painter
and I came to her community and

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I started with brushes, paints
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She might benefit differently.
As much as music is, I believe,

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the common thread that runs
through us, it's also what

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touches the human spirit and the
human soul is what resonates

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most.
And that's very subjective.

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And there was something we've
talked about before that comes

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up about this idea that music
hits this time of our life for

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people.
That gets us to this personal

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level of the idea of music that
will resonate with me will be

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different from music that
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that will be different from
anyone else that's tuning in on

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this podcast.
Would you like to tell us a bit

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about that idea of the time of
our life or that music bump, of

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why that is unique to all of us?
And what is about that time

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period that is so meaningful?
I think the time period is

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roughly between the ages of say
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in there all the way up to maybe
late 20s, early 30s, but 27 ish.

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There's some science on that.
So if any of your listeners are

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interested in digging in that
different white papers say

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different time frames, but
that's basically the era of our

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lives that is the most impactful
on who we become.

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Relative to the music, Whatever
music you were exposed to during

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that time of your life, that
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your life.
And depending on where you're

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from in the world or the country
will determine what that music

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is.
If you were raised in the South

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part of the United States versus
the Midwest versus the Upper

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East Coast, or if you were
raised in Mexico or Uganda,

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you're going to have different
influences and you're also

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influenced by your parents music
of the time of their life.

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So whatever music they played
and loved during their time of

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their life ends up being in the
household of the child growing

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up with their parents.
I was born in the 70s, but my

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parents were born in the 40s and
their time of their life was the

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50s.
So Motown was a big thing in my

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house and Elvis Presley and the
Dave Clark 5 and a lot of the

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British music and even into the
60's The Beatles played in my

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house.
That's not my time of my life

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music, but it becomes part of
the time of my life because it's

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what's played, it's what's
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It's my culture that surrounded
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And the culture can be of the
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is part of the culture that
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And then when you get to school
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possibly post high school
education or just your peers,

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it's what's played on the radio
during that time of your life or

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what your peers love.
Or oh, did you hear that new

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song that just came out by
someone?

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And then you hear that and
because your best friend loves

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it, you might too.
You might not.

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Peers have a lot of influence on
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So that's another culture that
we are exposed to in our lives.

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When you become later stages in
your life senior, even if we're

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so lucky to live to be
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music never leaves us.
And then it becomes therapeutic

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for us.
It takes us back to the time

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when we had physical abilities
and when we had we remember hot

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rodding down the Main Street,
running around with your

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girlfriends on the playground or
whatever it was.

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It takes you there, and that's
where a lot of people find their

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joy.
It seems to be that time period

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where we naturally seem to
gravitate back to our musical

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preferences.
And I suspect for many of us

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listening in, you probably
already had songs come to mind

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or artist come to mind.
I know as soon as I heard you

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listening, I went straight to
The Beach Boys and the Eagles

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with common CDs that we had
listening growing up.

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Grew up on the oldies and that
was a very salient period for

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myself versus my own punk rock
with my own preference, but very

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different ones of what we will
gravitate to.

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But the other area we seem to
talk about music and you and I

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collaborated on an infographic
which people can grab from the

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show notes about how music's
this whole brain body experience

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was these physical and emotional
components, which we've already

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started to hit on a little bit.
But music can somewhat be this

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tool to help us with nervous
system regulation or stress

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regulation.
How does fake music can also be

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a tool for us in that physical
or emotional domain that you

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might want to highlight for
people?

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Because we clearly got how music
can take us to this time of our

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lives and be a period where we
all probably instantly had

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memories or a beat.
Then we know, OK, we can use

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this to get us to an emotional
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What are some other things you
might want to highlight for us

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to know about for music and our
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This little sciency portion of
that answers that music affects

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the brain's limbic system, which
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learning, long term memories,
spatial navigation lives in the

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limbic system of the brain,
music and even a cadence of

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someone's voice in a delivery of
speech, for example, rhythm in

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the voice and it can alert and
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So music can alert and arouse.
That's what like a real upbeat

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song can do and it makes you
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seat, but it also can calm and
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Chances are all of us have heard
us a beautiful ballad that was

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from the time of our life that
took us straight back to when

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our boyfriend or girlfriend
broke up with us when we were in

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high school and we didn't know
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So we listen to the Best Song
that can make us feel the worst

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and it can empathize with us.
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as well.
You can set your current mood.

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You can play a song that keeps
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to stay in that place, or it can
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take you somewhere else.
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for arousing and changing a bad
mood into a good mood, like

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turning the frown upside down
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But it's a tool that can help us
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go, emotionally,
psychologically, mentally,

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spiritually, even.
I'm not going to say physically

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because that ends up happening
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I was thinking about earlier
when you said for your

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background and fitness of how
music is so important for a lot

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of us to keep moving and that
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I was thinking about this the
last time we happened to be out

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at park and I could hear the
music before you saw the people

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that were coming through
exercising because it's almost

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like where are they and you know
they're coming because it's this

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upbeat tempo music.
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because you need something like
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the pace if you're wanting to
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top of the hill, of course
that's what I would need to get

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me to a top of the hill.
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way would not be the slow ballad
of how you use music to match

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what a goal maybe for yourself
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Our infographic does highlight
some of these things around how

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music will be a benefit to your
physical, cognitive, emotional,

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or spiritual health, and people
can snag that from the show

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notes below.
But I want to make sure that we

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can tap into your expertise in
today's conversation about music

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and memory care.
And how does music ability often

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remain accessible even as
people's cognitive abilities may

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change or shift?
Music is accessible.

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But then I said to myself,
before I open my mouth, it all

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depends, I guess, on where we
are cognitively, but where we

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are actually even maybe
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Because I think about a lot of
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who live in these communities,
memory care communities,

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assisted living, independent
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Music is totally accessible.
Because even if you don't sing,

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a lot of people think, oh, I
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tune.
Doesn't matter if you can carry

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a tune or not, because music's
in your heart, music's in your

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mind.
You can play a song in your

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brain and maybe it's the Eagles
Hotel California that you can

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hear them sing it in your brain.
So music is highly accessible on

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demand that way.
So I'm answering your question

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maybe at least initially that
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But then we have to think about
if we are care partners or the

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people who live in some of these
communities may not have the

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cognition to have the
accessibility right away just to

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play Hotel California in their
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It's imperative then and
incumbent upon our care partners

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and our carers to help us access
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And that's where maybe I come
along with musical memory care,

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musical memorycare.com, because
I do it live online, but I'm

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also in person going to a lot of
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I bring my program and I sing
and we do the wonderful things

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that we do in the chair.
We move our bodies and we do

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hand eye coordination games and
those are all wonderful and it

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goes over really quite well.
But when I'm not there, what's

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going on?
Are CN as being trained to know

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that music is actually therapy
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benefit of the collective who
live in that particular

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building?
To be honest with you, I've seen

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a lot of not that.
I'm taking your question a

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little in a different direction
because that's how it's hitting

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my heart right now as you asked
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So forgive me if I'm not exactly
on point.

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With what your intention was,
but I think right now, because

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where we are in the world, where
we are in the American Society

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since Crystal, you and I are in
America having this

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conversation, but I would
imagine it's same all over the

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world right now.
It's a challenging time and

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what's missing, I think, for
humanity is love, compassion,

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kindness and intention.
I'm in the business of all that,

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and I just happened to be able
to sing, too.

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What I'd love for the world to
be able to do for our elders

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particularly is to understand
that music and especially the

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time of the life of the person
who's the elder, music is

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paramount in the lives of these
people to add quality of life.

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Now, it can be used as a
physical benefit because we can

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dance in our seats and we can
move our bodies and that's what

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I offer and that's great.
But in the end, as much as the

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physical aspect of what it is
Ioffer and what music can offer

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in terms of dancing or
cardiovascular components and

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movements is the heart of all of
this.

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Our elders are not respected in
the way they used to be.

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Now, I may be talking out of
school when it comes to other

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countries and how they treat
their elders, but I know in our

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American culture, we used to
treat them better and we used to

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Revere them more.
And seniors are my jam and I'm

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going to serve them until I
can't serve them anymore and

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honor who they are and what they
bring.

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Music and the time of their
life.

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Music brings them alive, whether
they're high functioning seniors

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or whether they're deep in the
disease of dementia.

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Music is a game changer for the
soul and right now in our world,

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people are worth our time to
implement the game changer that

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honors their soul.
I think it's one of those ones

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from anyone that's observed,
people that have an opportunity

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to engage in music across ages,
how different those types of

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interactions look for people
when an opportunity is present.

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We also forget the
intentionality that has to be

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put into place to create those
experiences, to have the

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environments that hold those
spaces, as well as the gifts of

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practitioners that have to have
a skill set in order to properly

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facilitate programs in a
meaningful way.

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I think so many times I've seen
places where it's up here's a

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box or here's a crate and here's
just instruments put in a room

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and you expect things to almost
happen.

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You have seen that if you
happens when you do music class

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with young children and you get
chaos and it's just loud noises

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and it's not necessarily what
we're aiming to do, right?

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We forget of what can happen
when things aren't necessarily

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facilitated in a right way or
where there's a skill.

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And when you're trying to do
that with intentionality of what

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can happen to what you're saying
of holding a space and creating

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and environment and creating
experiences for people and what

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music really can do.
And because it is at the

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essence, it opens up doors.
It still allows communication.

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And I would love more if you
could tell us about your musical

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memory care program because I
feel like there's so many

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components to it beyond the
music and the movement.

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And I think from so many people
with, if you were to reflect of

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what happens when people are
involved in music, how many

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different levels of expression
can happen even if you aren't

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vocally singing, the ways that
there are still opportunities to

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communicate and engage and
socially connect with one

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another.
So I would love if you could

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tell us more about the
multifaceted musical memory care

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program that you have created.
What are some of the outcomes

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from working with individuals?
The program is based on so many

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different dynamics and levels of
maybe even science and research

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done by others and then of
course practically applied by

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me.
I'll be clear that I'm not a

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certified music therapist.
I am certified in dementia.

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But I am a professional singer
for 30 years and have toured

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around the world singing.
What I've done is combine

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everything as an entertainer,
have learned how to read A room.

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As an entertainer, you walk on
stage and you feel the energy in

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the room.
You take a temperature of the

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collective, their consciousness
as well as just their energy.

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As the entertainer, you are
obligated to raise the

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consciousness of the room.
That is part of your job as an

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entertainer.
And I've taken all of that.

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My ability to sing helps for
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That I can carry a tune is
helpful, very helpful.

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But then my compassion for
seniors and my love for seniors

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and my service heart.
I'm sounding a little

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egocentric, but that's not what
I mean at all.

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Because if there's anyone
listening to this and they've

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got these, thanks.
Go do go, do go serve.

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We all have different gifts and
talents.

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I'm just naming a few that I
have collected over the years.

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I think the only thing I was
really born with is being able

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to sing and maybe energy read.
I think that's something I was

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born with, but the fitness
aspect of my life and being

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involved in fitness also helps
because I understand fitness.

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I understand cardiovascular
exercises that are not harmful

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to the seniors.
I know how to move a body

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mindfully without popping out a
shoulder or something like that.

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So those are also helpful.
And then of course, being

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trained in dementia and being
able to identify the various

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stages of dementia and how to
work with that, how to respond

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to that is also helpful.
So there's all those layers and

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what I have seen anecdotally are
some incredible things I've been

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Privy to quite a bit quickly.
When I first started doing this,

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when I was volunteering my time,
there was a woman named Vivian.

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She's no longer with us, and her
son was her primary care

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partner.
She lived in a memory care

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community.
She hadn't spoken for five

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years.
She was deep in the disease and

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her body was starting to curl up
on her hands.

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She could not extend her hands
out anymore.

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They were collapsing on
themselves, the fingers up into

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a ball, into a fist.
But she had her eyes and she had

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her smile.
I would be singing with Vivian

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and her son Kevin.
I'll never forget them.

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And I was done with my class.
And then I went up to Vivian.

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I had a little soft spark in my
heart for her.

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So I went up to her and I sang a
little extra song in her eyes to

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stance.
She had the most crooked, rotten

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teeth you could ever see.
But she had the most beautiful

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smile that I had ever seen.
And all of a sudden, after I was

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done singing straight to her and
she had her arms were moving a

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little bit to the rhythm, not
much, but she looked at me and

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she said, beautiful, just like
that beautiful.

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And I looked up at her son and
his jaw dropped.

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And I said, she's from the East
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Where is she from?
He said Long Island, New York.

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And I didn't know that.
But when she said beautiful,

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then I knew she was from the
East Coast.

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And he started to cry because he
says, I have not heard my

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mother's voice in five years.
What an anecdote to tell.

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That was my very first
experience with what it is that

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I was doing and still learning
what I was doing at the time.

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Today, I had three sessions and
there's a woman in memory care.

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I call her Miss Samara.
She has another name, too.

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And I call her by her real name
because I make sure I know

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everyone's name.
That's paramount too, that I

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know everybody's name because
people need to hear their name.

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They need to feel heard and
seen.

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We need to learn people's names.
And if you say, oh, I'm bad at

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names, then get good at names,
then get good at names because

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people are worth your time to
remember them.

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I make sure to remember names.
But I also call this woman Miss

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America.
She had a very bad stroke, as I

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understand, and she doesn't have
any of her right side legs, the

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arm, none of the right side does
she have.

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I'm still trying to surmise if
she still has it, if she has any

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cognitive issues, because the
only thing that she can say is I

453
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,600
want to.
I want to is the sky blue today

454
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,680
Miss America?
I want to.

455
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,960
Does 2 and 2 equal for Miss
America?

456
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,800
I want to.
That's all I can get from her.

457
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,960
But I'm learning her and her
expression in her face tells me

458
00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:03,080
the answer, not her words.
I found out she's a horse woman,

459
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,840
that she used to ride and raise
horses.

460
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,600
I need to find a little more
about that.

461
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,920
But I went up to her today and I
said, I understand that you love

462
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,960
horses.
And her eyes got so big and her

463
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,480
eyebrows lifted up.
I want to.

464
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,720
That's how she said it.
I want to.

465
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,920
Which meant, yes, you're right,
Shannon.

466
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,640
Yes, you're right.
Is that an example of the music

467
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,680
aspect of what Ioffer?
No, But here's what this is an

468
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,360
example of.
The foundation on which I base

469
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:38,280
my service is a compassionate
heart and authenticity.

470
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,800
And when you have that, there's
nothing you can't do, regardless

471
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,400
of what it is you do it.
With that you can never fail.

472
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,400
As a result, I come into this
particular memory care community

473
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,840
where Miss America lives, and
I'm doing music and I'm doing

474
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,520
movement.
She's moving the left part of

475
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,320
her body because she can't move
the right.

476
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,400
And she's doing her best.
And as a result, and I know her

477
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,560
name and I'm calling her Miss
America because she's beautiful.

478
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,440
Even though she may think she's
not, she is because everyone's

479
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,920
beautiful.
In my opinion, I've ingratiated

480
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,360
myself into not only that
building, but I've also

481
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:19,080
ingratiated myself into her
heart intentionally.

482
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,840
It's not that I wanted to take
over her heart, but I wanted to

483
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:28,520
prove myself to her that she can
trust me and as a result, I can

484
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,200
have a conversation with her
outside of the music and have

485
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,560
her be vulnerable.
And together we can be

486
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,640
vulnerable and move mountains
because we're both being

487
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,760
authentic and true to ourselves
as a result, true to each other.

488
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,120
And that's why my program works,
is because people are worth my

489
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:49,440
time to learn that they like
horses or they're from Walla,

490
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,640
Washington or Puerto Rico or
whatever.

491
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:58,520
And I give them a mirror.
I show them a mirror, not

492
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,480
literally, but figuratively of
who they are, who they once

493
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,960
were, and who they can be.
Because who they once were is

494
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,120
who they still are.
And it's never too late to still

495
00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:11,800
become.
And they're worth my time and

496
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:17,160
they're worth the world's time.
That's why music and movement

497
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,920
and my program works.
I encourage any of the listeners

498
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,400
out there.
You don't have to do music.

499
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,800
Whatever you do best, go do that
and go give it.

500
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:29,080
Go give it because that's why
you do it best.

501
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:30,920
It's because it's not meant for
you.

502
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,320
It's meant to be given.
Go give it.

503
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,680
Thank you so much for sharing
more about your program and how

504
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,920
the different elements come
together to support people in

505
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,000
music and memory.
And it sounds like such a shared

506
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:51,600
musical engagement environment
that also supports connection in

507
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,480
so many different ways while
providing dignity and identity

508
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,880
for those who do engage.
And what was the question as

509
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,720
we're starting to line down our
time?

510
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,920
I have no idea how time goes so
fast with our guests, but for

511
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:11,080
listeners that might want to
begin to use music intentionally

512
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:16,120
as holistic brain care, what
would you recommend for them as

513
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,120
a step of how can they use music
intentionally to support their

514
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,160
brain kit in day-to-day life?
Start remembering what songs you

515
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,520
like and put them in a playlist
or get out that CD that you

516
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,440
still have.
If you still have the CD player,

517
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,440
depending on your age, or even a
cassette.

518
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,560
I still have cassettes and I
still play those too.

519
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,000
But whatever modality you have
to be able to play music.

520
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,200
Play what you love and then that
way you can love what you play

521
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,560
and as a result, start dancing,
start moving.

522
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,160
And if you don't have the
ability physically, maybe you're

523
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,760
in a wheelchair, I don't know.
That doesn't mean you still

524
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,240
can't do this if you're in a
wheelchair or your abilities are

525
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,880
limited.
Still play the music and move as

526
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,440
you're able.
If you have a bad shoulder, then

527
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,200
work around that.
If you have arthritis, work

528
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,920
around it.
There's all these workarounds

529
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,040
you can do.
Find your joy in the music and

530
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400
express it the way you want to
express it.

531
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,720
If that means privately because
you don't want anybody to see,

532
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,560
that's all right too, because
this is about you anyway.

533
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,360
It's about how you want to do
this.

534
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,760
So find the music of the time of
your life that you love so much

535
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,520
and then play that and keep
playing that.

536
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,960
And if you're in a bad mood when
you wake up, maybe play it to

537
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,960
get you out of the bad mood to
start your day on a good foot,

538
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,800
if you will.
If you're into fitness or you're

539
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,560
not into fitness, even better.
If you're not into fitness, use

540
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,600
it as a modality for exercise
because frankly, that's what

541
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,400
gets people through My class is
that we do the music.

542
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,320
So it's a nice distractor from
doing arm movements, leg

543
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,400
movements, getting the heart
rate up, getting the blood

544
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,640
moving.
The music is a beautiful

545
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:54,120
distraction from the arduous
exercising that our doctors tell

546
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,720
us is good for us.
That's another way to do it.

547
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,880
Or share time with someone else,
whether it's family, husband,

548
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,320
wife, boyfriend, girlfriend,
best friend, neighbor.

549
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,240
Whatever it is, get people
together in a living room and

550
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,080
sit around in a circle and do it
together.

551
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,640
Or go to the Senior Center.
Or if you're not a senior,

552
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,080
create a class outside in your
park or whatever.

553
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,080
As long as you've got music,
even if you Can't Sing, play it.

554
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,520
I think you gave us lots of
practical ways that we can add

555
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,840
music into our daily brain care.
And I almost remember the

556
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,080
suggestion of years ago, I think
so many people used to just send

557
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,960
someone a song because it was on
their mind.

558
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,280
And I feel like because of the
way social media and so many

559
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,240
other things have taken over
more recently, we've almost

560
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,000
gotten away from that.
But I think we could totally get

561
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,040
back to that being a more
prominent way of doing that of,

562
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,760
hey, I heard this song and
thought of you.

563
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,840
Because there's probably a lot
of songs that if we hear it,

564
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,920
someone immediately will come to
our mind or a group of friends,

565
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,600
there's a memory with a friend
or a significant life event that

566
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,120
could easily be a way to start a
social connection as well.

567
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,320
And there's many ways that we
can use music to enhance our

568
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,360
brain health.
And I love your way of saying it

569
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,120
to just create the playlist for
yourself.

570
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,840
I think so many times we think
we have to make the list and

571
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,440
share with others but make it
for just yourself and enjoy it

572
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,480
and play it at home and move in
whatever way feels good for you.

573
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,240
No judgement.
Luckily, no one has to watch

574
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,800
you.
I love singing in the shower.

575
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,000
My dog will walk out because I
think I'm too loud, but the

576
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,840
shower is a great place.
The acoustics are always so good

577
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,880
in there, especially with the
water running.

578
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,360
That is my stage.
I love the shower, but I'll also

579
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,720
sing at the kitchen sink while
I'm washing dishes.

580
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,320
It's a great place to do a
little dance while my hands are

581
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,800
in the water.
I have no shame when it comes to

582
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,800
that.
I just do whatever.

583
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,080
And my husband rolls his eyes
and sometimes he'll sing with

584
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,480
me, too.
And music can be such a

585
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,200
fellowship, if you will, a
community engagement type of

586
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,960
thing.
But I want to say really

587
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:02,800
quickly, too, Crystal, you had
mentioned sending a song to

588
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,280
someone.
Music can be a gift for someone

589
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,680
else, too.
It's such a subjective thing.

590
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,080
Beauty is in the eye of the
beholder, they say.

591
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,280
So if we were to go to the
museum and art and you and I are

592
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,560
looking at the same painting, I
would think it's gorgeous and

593
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,520
you might think it's hideous.
Music is in the ear of the

594
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,640
beholder as well, and it's so
subjective.

595
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,360
So if you are a caregiver to
someone right now, please play

596
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,000
the music that they love and not
you.

597
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,880
Not your music, because you can
play that later for yourself,

598
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,360
but please play the music for
them that is about them because

599
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,200
it is about them.
Such a great thing to always

600
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,880
remember of the ways to
prioritize others and music

601
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,040
preferences when you can.
Last thing I want to say really

602
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:46,320
quick if there's anybody out
there who's caring for or has

603
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:52,240
Parkinson's themselves, music is
a great therapy to get you or

604
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,920
the loved one from point A to
point B.

605
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,600
So you could sing a song as
simple as You Are My Sunshine,

606
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:05,600
even at the cadence at which
that person or yourself walks.

607
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,480
Take a step and take a step and
take a step.

608
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,080
There's the rhythm.
Maybe you're walking and

609
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,520
walking, but if you have
Parkinson's, going from point A

610
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,719
to point B is highly challenging
if you're in advanced stages of

611
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,520
Parkinson's.
So if it's you yourself, or

612
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,880
you're the caregiver of someone
who has Parkinson's, sing a

613
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,760
song.
Sing a song.

614
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:32,920
You are are my sunshine.
You feel that rhythm, my only

615
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,080
sunshine.
You start to sing that for

616
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,880
yourself.
If you have Parkinson's or for

617
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,360
the one you're caring for, that
person will immediately start on

618
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,400
a more clear trajectory to get
to their destination with more

619
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,600
confidence because it's the
music and the rhythm that's

620
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,920
helping to facilitate their
cadence.

621
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:55,920
With Parkinson's particularly
and even Parkinson's dementia,

622
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,360
try to use music for the
modality of brushing the teeth

623
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,080
and walking to the bathroom and
folding a towel.

624
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,440
Do you feel that rhythm?
You can even talk like this.

625
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,760
They can talk back to you and
you can do things together

626
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,440
successfully.
So food for thought on that.

627
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,160
I want to make sure to mention
that Crystal.

628
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,160
Thank you so much for sharing
one simple music based practice

629
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,560
that listeners could start using
this week.

630
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,800
That's a great applied example
for all of us to try as we're

631
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,520
winding down.
I want to make sure I get to

632
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,400
pick your brain on a few last
minute things before we close

633
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,560
out the conversation.
As a musician as well as someone

634
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,480
that prioritizes musical memory
care and brain based practices,

635
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,840
what's your one non negotiable
for your own personal brain

636
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,240
care?
Work life balance, I think

637
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:52,760
that's becoming more acceptable
these days than it used to be

638
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,280
too, because it used to be that
we would just work in order to

639
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,720
live, and I now live to work.
So I want to make sure that as

640
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:05,280
much as I give back to myself,
and it doesn't have to be in the

641
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,240
form of music, it just has to be
in the form of other things.

642
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,920
I think that's important for
anybody who's still working or

643
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,560
just branching out into their
career is making sure that there

644
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,280
is a balance in that fine time
for you.

645
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,080
Thank you so much for sharing
that.

646
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,800
And if there are other things
that has piqued people's

647
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,240
interest and they want to learn
more about you or your musical

648
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,200
memory care program, where can
they find you and your work?

649
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,040
Musicalmemorycare.com is the
work I do with music and brain

650
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,760
health if you want to find out
more about kind of like the jazz

651
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,920
side of my life.
So I have two websites

652
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,480
musicalmemorycare.com and
Shannon wallacesings.com and

653
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,120
they cross pollinate there too.
So you can find my musical

654
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,120
memory care hyperlink on my
Shannon Wallace Sings website.

655
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,040
Perfect.
And what do you most hope

656
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,680
listeners carry away with them
after hearing today's

657
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,360
conversation?
Do what you love and love what

658
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,720
you do, because why would you do
anything else?

659
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,080
Why do you do what you do?
Why are you doing what you're

660
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,080
doing in any given moment?
If you don't know why you're

661
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,480
doing that, then why are you
doing it?

662
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:18,840
Be mindful with your own time
and your own mind and start

663
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,120
doing what you love and love
what you do because you're going

664
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,600
to benefit first and foremost.
And then the world as a result

665
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,520
will benefit.
Because when you start to love

666
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,520
what you do and do what you
love, it no longer becomes work.

667
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,440
It becomes a passion.
It becomes something that's

668
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,520
meaningful to yourself and as a
result, to the world.

669
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:40,800
That's the way we move the
needle in this world towards a

670
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,920
bright future, a more
compassionate earth.

671
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,960
And if you do that for yourself,
if you make things about you in

672
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,840
a benevolent, compassionate,
respectful way, then everyone

673
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,640
benefits and our world starts to
shift pretty quickly.

674
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,640
Music does not require
perfection.

675
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,400
It asks for presents.
When you engage with music, you

676
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,440
activate multiple brain systems
at once and support regulation,

677
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,080
connection, and meaning.
As you leave this conversation,

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think about how music shows up
in your daily life, not as

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background noise, but as an
intentional practice for brain

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health, for movement, for
memory, for emotion, for

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connection with others.
Brain health lives in daily

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moments.
Music gives you one more way to

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care for your brain and for the
people around you.

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Shannon Wallace, thank you so
much for letting me pick your

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brilliant brain on the Let's
Talk Brain Health podcast.

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Thank you for investing your
time and energy into your

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personal brain care by listening
to today's episode of the Let's

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Talk Brain Health Podcast.
I hope our conversation gave you

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fresh insights, a bit of
inspiration, or practical steps

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that you can take on your own
personal brain care journey.

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If you enjoyed today's
conversation, I'd like to ask

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you to please share this episode
with someone who could benefit

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from it or consider leaving us a
review.

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If you have questions or a topic
in brain health you'd like me to

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explore, please e-mail me
anytime at podcast at

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virtualbrainhealthcenter.com.
I'd love to hear from you.

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We have so many more exciting
topics ahead, and I can't wait

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to continue this lifelong
journey of better brain health

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together with you and our
growing virtual community.

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Until next time, remember to
give your brain the care it

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deserves and make your brain
health a priority.