On the Same Brainwave: National Brain Health Day with Krystal & Jon

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Welcome to the Let's Talk Brain
Health podcast, a public health

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educational initiative of the
virtual Brain Health Center.

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I'm your host, Doctor Crystal
Color, and I'm so glad you're

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here.
On this podcast, I sit down with

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incredible guests to explore all
things brain health and

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Wellness.
Together, we'll talk about how

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to care for your total brain
health, mind, body, and spirit

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while sharing the latest brain
Health Science practical tips

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and strategies you can use every
day.

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By prioritizing your brain
health, you're taking an

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important step towards living a
happier, healthier life.

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So let's dive in and welcome
today's guest, John.

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We've been on a bit of a brain
break from our podcasting and

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we're tuning up now for after
two years of Let's Talk Brain

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House.
So welcome back.

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I thought we'd take some time as
the host of this podcast to

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reflect on where we've been and
where we're going.

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Let's take a trip down memory
lane.

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Can you tell us how did we start
this podcast?

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Yeah, I think we met maybe 2 1/2
years ago on LinkedIn.

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Coincidentally, as some of the
viewers may know, we mentioned

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this in a couple podcasts.
We both are from West Virginia.

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That's not Virginia, that's West
Virginia.

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And we just had overlapping
interests and backgrounds in the

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brain health area.
And I noticed your website, the

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virtual brain Health Centers,
was very interesting to me as a

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clinician and a neurologist.
And I thought to myself, wow, I

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should ask Crystal to start a
podcast.

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And at that time, it looked like
on your website, there wasn't

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anything.
I think we just had some emails

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back and forth.
And then here's where we are two

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years later with over 50 posts
that have been on our podcast.

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And we've had many different
topics across a broad range of

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categories.
And hopefully this is going to

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continue for the future.
We can talk more about that in

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the next 30 minutes or so.
Yeah, I remember it was really

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exciting once to hear from you
and once we connected, it was

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just like riding similar brain
waves.

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So having complimentary
backgrounds, you being a

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neurologist, having that
clinical experience, my

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experience and the community
based brain health and to be

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honest, having to think about
doing a podcast was always on my

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mind.
And then once I heard from you

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was like, now's the time, let's
do it.

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And here we are two years later.
So we had initially launched on

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National Brain Health Day.
So now we're releasing this

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episode 2 years later.
And I'd like to welcome people

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if they are new to the podcast
or welcome them back if they've

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been tuning in before we had
launched with the first episode

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was to you, Doctor John Arts as
our Co host.

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And actually, before we took our
little brain break, we ended our

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two years on episode 56 with you
on reminding people of how to

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have the brain health
conversation with the healthcare

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provider and you share those
insights with our audience.

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It was episode 35 where my
counterpart Leanne had

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interviewed me from the virtual
brain Health Center where people

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could learn a little bit more
about me and my background when

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I think of topics surrounding
the hot ones that come to mind.

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Of course, nutrition, which when
we go to the fans favorites

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list, those are the top ones.
We've had Maggie Moon on twice

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talking about mind diet.
We've had Doctor Dean Ornish in

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his big study on multimodal
lifestyle interventions and

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brain health.
We've had people on in the

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clinical arena talking about
memory and early assessment.

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We had early on in the seasons,
Doctors Planoski's, the husband

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wife duo talking about that as
well.

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So we have covered a lot of
different areas as well as what

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are some of those practical
things that people can do where

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we've gotten into aromatherapy,
binaural beats that people can

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use some of these holistic
Wellness tools where hey, here's

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something you can try in your
day-to-day life that may help

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one aspect of your brain health
and well-being.

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And I think we may have been
surprised on some of these

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topics where we have talked with
guests and we've learned

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probably new things ourselves
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It's been a bit of a learning
hub.

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Has there been a gastro topic,
John, that has just really

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shifted your thinking or where
you've learned something new

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along the way too in these last
two years?

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Yeah, the amazing thing about
the podcast and the way it was

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set up was that the goal was to
invite people that obviously had

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an interest in brain health and
helping other people do better.

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I keep using the word cognitive
health is a vital sign and I

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used it over and over.
I think it you just don't want

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the podcast that you interviewed
me on.

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And I think that there are some
themes regards of wherever the

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people came from that we invited
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That seemed to be an important
take away point in the sense

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that you have an opportunity,
you have the time, you have to

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put in a little effort to
improve yourself.

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There's always usually for
everybody something to improve

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upon to make their brain in a
better place than they are at

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the present time.
And I actually don't really have

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a favorite of all the different
people because everybody had a

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unique interest.
And I actually learned a lot

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from everybody, whether it was a
medical physician, whether it

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was somebody who was
representing a patients or even

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a patient who had a condition or
a therapist or somebody who was

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talking about the importance of
the brain heart interaction,

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everything's been great.
Everybody seemed to really give

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back what they new in a very in
depth way and I'm glad to be

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part of this.
Share your sentiment.

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Where I think the one surprising
take away for me is we've been

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open with the broad vision of
what the podcast would be is we

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knew we wanted brain health
experts and that could be from

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their study discipline.
But also we had individuals who

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were open and willing to share
their lived experience, whether

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that was their own personal
journey or they had navigated

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some type of experience that
they had in their lives.

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And I think those almost meshed
at a lot of times when we had

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talked with people who had
either clinical expertise or

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degrees and there was something
that happened in their life that

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brought them into this brain
health space and they shared

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this story.
And for me, I've always just

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felt very honored that people
come in and share their

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authentic selves and have been
open with their story and that

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journey.
And I think even where there's

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times we've just invited guests
and they're like, yes, I'd like

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to come and I want you to talk
to my colleague too because they

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have this great story and
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I think I've been pleasantly
surprised overall in the broader

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brain health space of how many
people are here with the heart

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of wanting to actually help and
support people.

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It's not just this is their
day-to-day job, they're actually

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there with the caring support
and wanting to help others in

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this broader space and to find
real world solutions for people.

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Whether it's their journey that
they've navigated with a loved

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one to make lives easier or to
prove efficiencies in care in a

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healthcare system, or trying to
navigate community services for

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loved ones.
Someone has navigated this

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journey themselves and they want
it easier for the next person

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coming behind them and having
this innovation to find

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solutions and creativity and
connection and openness.

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So I think that's always been
the surprising part is just

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honestly realizing how many
people have this heartbeat along

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with their path, not just the
brains, they have the brain

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power to solve these problems
that are really this kindred

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hearts as well.
With all of our experts who have

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come on, especially those that
have shared openly their own

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personal brain care journeys and
what they've been doing or what

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they have learned to take care
of their brain health for

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themselves.
I was thinking about when this

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was first starting.
I had no qualms.

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I knew there was so much content
that we could draw from the

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various types of specialists,
clinicians, patients,

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caregivers.
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insurmountable about where to
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But essentially, once this got
going, I think that there were

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actually some people that we
invited on the podcast where

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they actually were happy to be
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They were referring people to
us.

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And I think you got more of that
than I did because you were

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doing a lot of the organization.
But it's always good to know

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when people have a positive
experience and they forward on

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to somebody else that they think
would be good to come on to talk

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to us.
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And I think it's been really
nice to hearing some listeners

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who have decided to either
e-mail in or who have reached

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out or sometimes they have
commented through some of the

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channels where they're listening
in some feedback and have shared

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some of the topics that they're
wanting to know about.

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So I will let people know they
can always e-mail us at podcast

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at virtualbrainhealthcenter.com
with any topics or questions or

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a type of expert that they want
to know more about.

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I would say I think that's been
the best thing about having this

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broad frame of brain health.
John, I don't know about you.

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And at least the last 10-15
years there has not been a topic

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I haven't been able to link back
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that people have thrown my way.
But we will openly accept that

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challenge for people if they're
want to e-mail something in of a

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topic that they want to know or
even something brain based

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specific condition with an
expert and getting brain care

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tools and strategies that we can
reach out to our networks and

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really start to explore that.
So please be sure to send those

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in for us.
John, I thought we'd like to

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recap where the listeners
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for you, your whole idea and the
clinical setting and the vision

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for the podcast was we want to
talk to people earlier before

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they get into ideally you as a
neurologist in this office.

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And we have talked a little bit
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public health awareness
approach, really talking brain

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health for all ages and stages.
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snippets of this into some of
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But now we have about two years
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And I think one of the most
interesting things that we can

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share with our audience is we
have tapped into, at least in

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our 56 episodes, all age groups
reported into Bright House.

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So actually our largest
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ages 45 to 59 before we want to
get to really what we would say

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aging adults being 60 and above
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age group.
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would be my peers at ages 35 to
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So we really have taken this
conversation upstream and the

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youth would really come into
combining them all with ages 34

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and younger is still 15% of our
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So we have really tapped into
brain health being for all ages,

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which maybe speaks to the wide
variety of topics and guests

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that we have had on and piquing
people's interest.

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But to date, we are just shy of
about 7000 downloads across our

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56 episodes.
We've had listeners TuneIn from

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70 different countries with our
largest audience being US based,

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but still then going to Canada,
Australia, the United Kingdom,

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Ireland, India, Poland and
Germany for the next largest

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group.
So we thank you all for taking

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up this charge of better brain
health and investing into your

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brain care.
And we hope that our podcast

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gets to play one small piece of
the journey and information that

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you are looking for and finding
information about brain health

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in ways that you can apply the
latest brain Health Science into

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your day-to-day lives.
John, what do you think about

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after hearing that when this was
podcast with kind of our idea

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and your vision really was to
start the brain health

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conversation earlier and now
that we've caught those age

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groups and a bit of an
international audience?

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Yes, as a clinician and a
neurologist, seeing patients who

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are typically more in the 50s
and up group and seeing people

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who develop dementia issues,
whether it's from Alzheimer's or

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some other 'cause sometimes we
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actual cause is because some of
these issues are modifiable.

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For example, diabetes,
hypertension, some people have

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sleep disturbances like sleep
apnea, and often times people

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have multiple issues going on.
So the reality is I wanted to

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make people aware that there are
a lot of modifiable risk factors

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that are important in
maintaining your brain health

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and reducing the risk of
progression, whether you have a

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risk of a declining brain
condition based on genetics in

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your family or not.
And so you can talk Crystal

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about The Lancet study if you
want, because I know that was

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recently published.
It was an update about the

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importance of modifiable
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towards brain health.
Yeah, and I think that's one

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that makes people have a lot
more awareness about of The

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Lancet Commission report shows
about 14 different risk factors

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and it does a life course
approach of what are ones that

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people can take action on to
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in later life.
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have awareness around the
chronic health conditions that

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you could manage, high blood
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cholesterol, depression.
Other risk factors that come on

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related to managing long term
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having a level of awareness of
your sensory health, which would

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include your hearing and your
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So looking at your sensory
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vision.
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Commission report lifestyle risk
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holistic lifestyle related to
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as more than 21 units per week,
which here in the US that still

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exceeds recommended drinks per
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women.
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look at physical inactivity, not
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quality of education.
And then we know that our brains

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and our bodies exist within our
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are related to air pollution and
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from The Lancet Commission
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And I'd like to just acknowledge
that this is not all inclusive

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of brain health risk factors.
If you were to sit down with the

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healthcare provider like John,
there are other aspects of your

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health that would come online
like nutrition, sleep.

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There are also other ones that
gain popularity in media related

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to brain health.
So there's microplastics, we see

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the wildfire smoke, we see other
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exposure to violence.
There's a lot more risk factors

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related to brain health to be
mindful of as we continue the

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conversation.
If you ever look through our

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resource library on our podcast
page, if you better want to

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understand heart health and its
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you can look at some of those
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it's a bit of a deeper dive.
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there.
We also have some episodes that

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will be upcoming this year where
there's ones we just haven't got

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to sit down and do that deeper
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They're ones I'm looking forward
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We're better understanding the
importance of social health and

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isolation.
Hopefully getting somebody on to

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talk about more environmental
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that risk factor coming more
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So it's almost exciting that as
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day-to-day with us, that we can
find experts who will come on

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and then give us that
relationship of that risk factor

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to our brain health.
Tell us the limit of the science

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as we know it now.
And also let us know what are

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the action steps we can take
today, that reassurance that we

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don't have to wait till there is
an issue or that we may end up

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in a provider's office.
What are the things we can do?

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And I think that's a lot of this
conversation around brain health

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and this whole point of this
podcast is the assurance that

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there are many things we can do
today to help support our brain

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health.
And John, I think for a lot of

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folks that may have heard some
of our conversations where we've

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gotten a chance to know a little
bit about you and your

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background is you've got lots of
projects going on.

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You're not just a clinician.
You get to teach, you're doing

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some research projects.
You contributed to one of the

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studies with Doctor Dean Ornish.
Would you like to give us a

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little bit of insights from his
lifestyle medicine study?

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I was involved in the very early
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that initially started in 2018
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It was published June the 7th
2024 in the Journal of

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Alzheimer's Research and
Therapy.

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Essentially it showed that in a
small group of people that

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received the multimodal
intervention, which essentially

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is Dean Ornish's same protocol
that uses to prevent heart

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disease, that study showed that
after 20 weeks that there was a

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clear benefit of people who
participated in a multimodal

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intervention.
So essentially we're dealing

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with in this study, there was
exercise in terms of walking,

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there was mild strength
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meditation.
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the vegan diet.
There was a series of

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supplements that were used and
there was a stress reduction

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arm.
So the point is there were a lot

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of variables in the study, but
overall looked at the endpoints

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which essentially are they pick
specific that were associated

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with cognition and functioning
of a person who was at risk for

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developing or who had
Alzheimer's disease based in

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criteria that was used to put
the patients in the study and

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people specifically with mild
cognitive impairment or early

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stages of dementia related to
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They showed essentially that
using Dean Ornish's multimodal

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intervention study that patients
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actually improved in their
cognition, which included

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memory, language, orientation
and or their basic functioning

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in day-to-day lives as an entire
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Some people did not improve, but
the statistics supported a clear

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improvement in the majority of
the patients that were in the

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intervention group and actually
a worsening of the people that

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did not participate that
actually were in the control

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arm.
So he just presented 40 week

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data at the Alzheimer's
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Conference in July of.
This year and essentially it

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showed that his multimodal
lifestyle change continued to

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significantly improve cognition
and function at the 40 week

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point.
And the people that were in the

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control arm, which were half by
25 patients in the 1st 20 weeks,

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they actually transitioned or
they crossed over to participate

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for another 20 weeks getting the
intervention, which means they

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were part of getting the vegan
diet, participating in the

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strict exercise regimen,
following stress meditation and

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kind of supervision for stress
management related areas.

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And they actually improved.
So the key point is this is an

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ongoing and important topic
given that there's been several

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other studies coming out in the
last two months. the US Pointer

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study, which actually just was
published over the summertime as

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well, showed that again,
lifestyle changes are important

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in improving cognition and
maintaining functioning.

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People that were at risk to
develop cognitive decline or had

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risk factors which could include
diabetes, high blood pressure,

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lacking exercise, being
sedentary.

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So what we're seeing come
together for this year and for

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next year I think is we're going
to see the continued importance

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of lifestyle factors in a
scientific way improving and

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showing benefit to reduce the
risk of developing cognitive

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decline and maintaining
function.

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If you have a condition like
such as Alzheimer's, that there

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is important benefit for you to
change your daily day-to-day

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life.
For example, eat better, eat

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more fruits and vegetables such
as the Mediterranean diet or the

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MIND diet.
Exercise more, be cognizant of

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your level of stress.
Some of these things seem

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obvious, but the reality is now
we have the science behind it

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and there's always something to
do to improve your brain health.

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That's what the take away is.
Thank you for giving us the

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highlight of that research that
I think will be seeing more

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about this year.
I thought of just emphasizing

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there was quite a bit of talk
towards the end of this summer

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of Alzheimer's Association
International Conference came

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out lots of chatter about the
pointer study from the

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Alzheimer's Association.
They put out AUS Pointer brain

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health recipe.
I think all of us like those

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simple actionable items from the
research.

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So the POINTER study was a two
year clinical trial that found

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that simultaneously targeting
risk factors for cognitive

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decline that included regular
physical activity, a brain

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healthy diet, cognitive and
social engagement, plus health

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monitoring could improve brain
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While the cognitive health of
all participants in the Point US

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POINTER study improved, the
group that followed the more

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structured program improved even
more, helping to protect

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thinking and memory from the
usual normal decline that often

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comes with aging over the two
year study period.

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These results provide powerful
actual guidance for promoting

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brain health and aging
populations.

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So their brain health recipe
that they offer is to monitor

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health.
So your regular check insurance

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on your blood pressure, your
weight and your lab results

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recommends physical exercise at
30 to 35 minutes, moderate to a

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tense aerobic activity.
So something that gets the heart

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rate up a little bit where it
would be hard for me and John to

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be having this conversation
right now about four times a

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week, plus strength and
flexibility exercises twice a

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week.
This is the protocol from the

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study.
It recommends cognitive

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exercises, so computer based
brain training program three

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times a week for 30 minutes plus
regular engagement and other

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intellectually challenging and
social activities.

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And much to what John was
pointing out early on nutrition

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piece in this study at the
adherence to the MIND diet,

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which we have two episodes on
from Maggie Moon about what are

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the aspects of the mind diet and
the benefits for brain health

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that you can learn more about.
This is the recipe from the

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pointer study on brain health.
So you can catch that in the

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show notes and find a little bit
more about the Pointer study.

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But I think, John, these two big
studies are pointing about to

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brain health is not one thing
and it's not going to be one

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thing that's going to fix brain
health for all of us.

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So we think it leads to the
conversations that we keep

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having with interdisciplinary
experts coming on and sharing

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from multiple different
backgrounds, but also all these

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different elements of your
holistic health, your social

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health, physical health,
emotional health, cognitive

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health, and how all those pieces
to put together this complex

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puzzle that is your brain that
scientists and all of us are

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still figuring out today.
Any insights for where you think

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that might come online for what
you think you'll see either in

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this next year, John, in our
conversations or what might be

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coming forward and the aspects
of clinical brain health, what

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we might expect?
Yeah, I think we're going to see

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artificial intelligence.
I know it's all in the news

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right now.
AII think we're going to see in

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medicine and increase tendency
for programs or apps to identify

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percentiles risk factors based
on a person's historical

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information and pretty much
uploading or whether going into

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the health into your computer,
your personal record through

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your physician.
I don't think that's coming this

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coming year, but I think in the
next several years it will be

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available where we'll do a risk
analysis of the person's

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situation and saying, hey, these
are the factors you need to

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really take seriously because in
your situation, maybe you have a

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family history of a dementia
condition, whether it's a known

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or unknown condition.
Some people have a pretty good

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identification of their parents
or grandparents had, for

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example, Alzheimer's, which is
pretty much the most common

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neurodegenerative disease that
can cause slowly progressive

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brain loss.
But interestingly, which is

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really if you look, and I just
want to make this comment

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because there's drugs coming out
and they're going to continue to

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come out for Alzheimer's disease
such as GLP, one agonist such as

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Ozempic, They're being studied.
There's at least three trials

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are going to come out next year
that are affecting your

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metabolism that I suspect are
going to have benefits.

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And people that are at risk for
dementia, whether it's

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Alzheimer's or not and or using
AI will be able to identify

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people either for research, to
make research more robust in

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terms of developing better
trials, but also for a

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personalized medicine effect to
say to yourself, hey, you need

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to look at these three factors
because this is going to

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contribute to maybe a 30% risk
of your developing cognitive

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decline in the next 5 years.
So I think we're going to have

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better statistics and it'll be
more personalized medicine

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because of artificial
intelligence.

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And I think that's the part
where a lot of the community

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based brain health will be
going.

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And I just think in the time
we're at, John, with at least

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the state of public health in
the US is brain health is

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desperately needed in terms of
messaging.

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And I'm glad to hear that our
podcast reaches all age groups.

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But I think right now, the time
that we're in is for people to

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better understand their brain
and the control that they do

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have over their brain health.
The things that they can do with

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just the environment that we're
in with social media and all of

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these things that are taking
advantage of your brain.

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You have teams of people that
are out there manipulating you

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for your time or to buy things
or to exploit your attention for

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things that aren't good for you.
But when you can actually get

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the education to better
understand your brain, that you

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could put your phone down and
disconnect and go invest in your

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own physical exercise or
something for your emotional

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health.
And that when you can get these

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skills in, these tools that you
can use that are your brain

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skills in your day-to-day life
and that you better understand

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your brain, how different life
can look.

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And I like to think that's where
this podcast can play a role in

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to help getting people some of
this education and exposure to

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different experts or different
disciplines.

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Where even if you do use your
phone and you find an app and

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you go listen to binaural beats
or you use a meditation and you

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find a new strategy that you can
use to take care of your brain.

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Or find a different expert where
hey, just like you said, your

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nutrition has you at risk, but
there's somewhere you can reach

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out to better understand
nutrition for yourself.

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Then that's a tool and strategy
that you can use now.

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But I think really where I can
see community based brain health

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is a lot of this education and
empowerment and letting people

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know that it is for all of us
and that there are things we can

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do.
Because I think for a lot of

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times the messaging gets missed
that it's almost like you have

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to wait till there's an issue or
so many of us think brain

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health's not for us.
It's not for now.

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We tend to think it's for
everybody else, not us, or it's

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for older adults or for someone
that has a brain based

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condition.
And it's really for all of us.

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And so I'm very grateful to see
that our podcast is captured a

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glimpse of that audience of all
ages tuning in different people

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from across the world and hope
that's what we can see in a lot

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of the community based settings
are these tools and strategies

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that people can use in their
day-to-day lives as all of us

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are navigating brain health
together every single day.

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John, what's next for the
podcast in this next year for

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our listeners?
That is a very tough question,

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but I have to have more
researchers on the podcast that

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are doing groundbreaking
research, and I'd love to go

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into more depth about the
importance of sleep, which I

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think is underrepresented in
brain health, do.

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You have a sneak peek for us of
who's kicking off our next year

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on the podcast.
Doctor Neotus is the first

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preventative neurologist trained
in the United States.

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She is a strong advocate for
reducing risk and the importance

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of, for example, lipid
metabolism, cholesterol changes,

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hypertension.
She is a new wave of the next

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group of neurologists, and I
hope there's more of her to

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encourage the importance of
literally what we've been

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talking about throughout the
last two years by by all the

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different people that have come
on our podcast to discuss the

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various factors that are
important in keeping your brain

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in a healthy state.
I think I'm just really excited.

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We've had always had this
running list of topics and I

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remember you said at some point
we won't have to keep reaching

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out.
People will start coming to us.

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00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,920
And we've had this balanced
shift where just as you said,

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like we want to talk with the
sleep researcher, we can reach

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out to find some folks or to
network our way through, but

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00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,080
also to have some people coming
our way where we can get to this

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list of topics that we know are
important to brain health.

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And we want to dive a little bit
deeper to bring that awareness

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to.
So I just want to remind our

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listeners, if there's a topic on
your mind, please do not ever

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hesitate to send that our way.
And I'm also very optimistic as

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well as some of the lived
experience stories that people

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will be sharing.
I'd like to just thank our loyal

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00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,720
listeners who maybe have been
with us since day one or people

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00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,320
who may be new to the podcast
for investing our time and

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00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,560
energy into their brain care by
either listening to today's

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00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,080
episode or have tuned into other
episodes.

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Or hopefully maybe now they've
given us a follow and we'll get

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00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,960
the alert to when new episodes
release.

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But we will be back to ideally
releasing episodes twice a month

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on Wednesday, so typically about
every other week with other

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experts, lived experience, as
well as clinical experts and

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researchers and many other
topics related to brain health

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in the coming year.
And we hope people will.

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TuneIn, John, thanks for being
the Co host of this podcast.

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I'm excited for what the next
year will be.

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And I guess we can end with
telling everyone happy National

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Brain Health Day.
It always seems the perfect day

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00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,160
to celebrate another year of the
Let's Talk Brain Health podcast.

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Thank you for investing your
time and energy into your

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00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,960
personal brain care by listening
to today's episode of the Let's

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00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,360
Talk Brain Health Podcast.
I hope our conversation gave you

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00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,120
fresh insights, a bit of
inspiration, or practical steps

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00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,360
that you can take on your own
personal brain care journey.

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00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,680
If you enjoyed today's
conversation, I'd like to ask

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you to please share this episode
with someone who could benefit

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00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,040
from it or consider leaving us a
review.

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If you have questions or a topic
in brain health you'd like me to

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00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,760
explore, please e-mail me
anytime at podcast at

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00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,440
virtualbrainhealthcenter.com.
I'd love to hear from you.

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We have so many more exciting
topics ahead, and I can't wait

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to continue this lifelong
journey of better brain health

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together with you and our
growing virtual community.

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Until next time, remember to
give your brain the care it

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deserves and make your brain
health a priority.